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Old 06-28-2006, 10:05 AM
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how true are these phrases?

You may marry the nice guy, but it's the one that broke your heart that you will always remember.

Just for argument sake, do women go through series of jerks, or bad boys before they settle down with a nice guy? If so, why is that?



Women fake sex for love, while men fake love for sex.

Again, for argument sake, how true is this?
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Old 06-28-2006, 10:11 AM
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You may marry the nice guy, but it's the one that broke your heart that you will always remember.
Unless the "nice guy" makes an equally indelible impression on the female, the greatest emotion will probably more prominent in her mind, but not in a good sense. Memory does naturally equate with good memory.

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Just for argument sake, do women go through series of jerks, or bad boys before they settle down with a nice guy? If so, why is that?
Because they haven't gained a real sense of their own value.


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Women fake sex for love, while men fake love for sex.
This is ,unfortunately, true. Should our focus be on the losers who want "instant" relationship and aren't willing to go through the proper process? I think our focus has to be on walking out the proper process ourselves, and gaining a terrific mate/partner, instead of focusing on the negatives.


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Old 06-28-2006, 10:28 AM
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You may marry the nice guy, but it's the one that broke your heart that you will always remember.
Don't think it's always the nice guy in this matter but I think we all remember the ones who hurt us. Regret, pain, suffering ... it always seems to stay with you. So whether it be a nice guy you're marrying or just the guy you fall in love with ... we'll always remember the pain. It's just part of who you are .... but it doesn't make the love any less.

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Just for argument sake, do women go through series of jerks, or bad boys before they settle down with a nice guy? If so, why is that?
You'll have to kiss a lot of toads before you find your prince, right? Or you'll have to go through a bunch of psychos before you find the right girl? Unless you're amazingly lucky, we all have had our run in with the ones that make you look back and wonder, WTF was I thinking. When you're younger, you have little clue about who you are and what you want ... bad boys are exciting but definitely a pain in the ass. And not the good kind.

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Women fake sex for love, while men fake love for sex.

Again, for argument sake, how true is this?
I think that there might be cases that its true. I mean, how many times have you heard a guy complain that before they were married, they used to hump like rabbits? Again, it falls into that category of women who take care of themselves and look amazing, are charming, sex kittens before marriage ... but once they get married, they get the guy and then let themselves go and stop trying. That's the only thing I can think for for the former ... as for the latter, you have a huge population of the male species who will SAY and DO anything to get into a girls pants. Lie, cheat, maim ... whatever.

All in all, I think that there is truth in all those sayings ... but not true for everyone.

Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls. The most massive characters are seared with scars. ~ Khalil Gibran

Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever. ~ Mahatma Ghandi
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You may marry the nice guy, but it's the one that broke your heart that you will always remember.
from the male perspective, i remember all of them equally. no one really stands out after enough time passes. love, hate, regret... those feelings fade eventually and all i've been left with is a murky image of smiling eyes.

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Just for argument sake, do women go through series of jerks, or bad boys before they settle down with a nice guy? If so, why is that?
it's a learning process and a question of value between excitement and security. of course every woman wants both, and so does every man and his desire to have that "nice girl" who's a slut behind closed doors. after enough time, all of us, male and female alike, must settle to some degree before we're dead. i've come to the stark conclusion that i don't deserve a well-balanced woman. i mean, hell, look at me. i'm borderline PZZAHWWWAAHowow.

it's like that great line from Good Will Hunting: "nobody's perfect, but what we seek is someone who's perfect for us" or something like that.

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Women fake sex for love, while men fake love for sex
i've never faked love for sex. i mean, i may have confused sex for love, or maybe said "i love you" while i was drunk, but it wasn't for sex. and to be honest, in that moment -- i really meant it!
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Women fake sex for love, while men fake love for sex.

Again, for argument sake, how true is this?

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This is ,unfortunately, true.
Not true..right now I'm in love..and have never asked for sex..and if I did..I would give her more love after sex..

....ofcourse I'm not your average type of male neither...
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You may marry the nice guy, but it's the one that broke your heart that you will always remember.
People remember car wrecks, not every day they got home safely.
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Just for argument sake, do women go through series of jerks, or bad boys before they settle down with a nice guy? If so, why is that?
1) Women mature with age and so do their tastes.
2) After they wasted away most of their youth getting screwed over by bad boys, they need a nice provider to come in and clean up their mess (kids, bills, etc).
3) As their looks fade, bad boys stop choosing them over younger hotties, so it's not like they have much of a choice, anyways.
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Women fake sex for love, while men fake love for sex.
Women fakes O's, men fake emotions. Because these things naturally come harder for both.
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You may marry the nice guy, but it's the one that broke your heart that you will always remember.

True. Very true. Lately, I've realized that my memories of my many, many ex's are kinda starting to fade, but I do remember the assholes more than the nice guys. And yes, I definitely married the nice guy. There's no way I would spend my life with one of those other idiots, but you know what's funny? Before I was with Thak, who is the quintessential "nice guy", I really did not know it could be like this. I thought my previous two fiances were about typical. They weren't the worst assholes I ever dated, but they definitely didn't treat me very well (which is pretty much why I treated them like shit in return.) Now that I know what it's like to be with someone decent, I wouldn't have it any other way. If something ever happened to Thak, I would seek out someone just like him.

Just for argument sake, do women go through series of jerks, or bad boys before they settle down with a nice guy? If so, why is that?

Absolutely. The reason why I did it was because I'd been such a "good girl" all my life, and I wanted to see what it was like to be on the other side of the equation. I wanted to know how the other half lived, and I wanted the excitement. I wanted to be with guys who were tougher than me, and in my immature mind, I thought that there was only one kind of toughness. Now, I regard the Harvard graduate student as just as much of a badass as the Army Ranger, but back then, I would have picked the Ranger over the grad student any day of the week. It was very much about immaturity and the pursuit of adventure.


Women fake sex for love, while men fake love for sex.

Again, for argument sake, how true is this?


In my own case, not at all. I never faked wanting sex, and I never expected love. Really, I didn't... even from Thak, to be perfectly honest. I didn't believe in it. I knew I liked sex though... the two things are not inextricably linked, in my opinion. Well, I mean, they are now that I'm married, but they weren't before.

He's worth it.
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You may marry the nice guy, but it's the one that broke your heart that you will always remember.
I remember them all.
The one who did something really evil though, he followed me into more dreams than the others, in a bad way.
Marry the nice guy ... uhm, I am divorced so let's say I failed in the attempt but surely wanted to. (Oh, the ex wasn't SO bad a guy btw.)

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Just for argument sake, do women go through series of jerks, or bad boys before they settle down with a nice guy? If so, why is that?
Bad boys ... I tried to avoid them from a young age on, but had my fair share of what you could call bad boys. I had nice guys and bad boys with which I didn't come along forever, so who knows with whom I will end up ...
It takes me a while to figure it out, obviously I chost wrong in the past, so that explains why my life didn't lead to the final relationship yet.

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Women fake sex for love, while men fake love for sex.
Again, for argument sake, how true is this?
In a certain degree this holds some truth in it.
I am more out for feeling the other in a relationship when many men I meet would be more out for sex without strings attached.
This changes with the age, btw, while it was more common in my teenage and early twenties now in my thirties I see more men who openly tell they want to "settle down".
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