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In Germany mare's milk is a very limited commodity and very expensive.
It`s recommended as a substitute for cow's milk for people with milk allergies.
As it is here, but we typically use goat's milk for those with milk allergies.
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Manti (Turkish/Tatar stuffed dumplings):


Steamed Manty can resemble the form of steamed buns as well as ravioli, as seen in this serving from Krygyzstan.

The origins of this dish is said to have rather violent beginnings, as it's portability and storagability were used for military convenience during the Turkic-Mongol Empire. Turkic and Mongol horsemen on the move were supposed to have carried frozen or dried mantı, which could be quickly boiled over a camp-fire.

Total time: approx. 1-1.5 hours

Ingredients:

Dough
8 cups all-purpose flour
1 tbsp. salt
3 eggs
3/4+ cup water

Filling variation #1: Meat
4 cups ground meat
1-1/2 cups minced onions
3/4 cup finely chopped parsley
2 tsp. salt
1 tsp. black pepper

OR

Filling Variation #2: Meat & Pumpkin mix
2 cups ground meat (lamb, beef, or chicken)
1-1/2 cups minced onions
2 cups pumpkin, or pumpkin and carrots, peeled and finely chopped
2 tsp. salt
1 tsp. black pepper

Sauces and/or garnishes:
3 cups peeled and chopped tomato
1/2 cup butter
1/2 tsp. cayenne

4 cups yogurt
2 tbsp. minced garlic

Melted butter
Sour cream

Combine all but 1/2 cup of the flour, and the salt, in a bowl. Make a well in the center and add the eggs and water. Mix well, then knead for 10 minutes or until the dough is smooth and slightly stiff. Divide it into three parts, cover with a damp towel and let it rest for 30 minutes. While the dough rests, prepare one of the fillings. Combine all of the filling ingredients and mix well.

On a floured surface, roll out one ball of dough to 1/4" thickness, sprinkling lightly over the top with flour. Cut the dough into 1" squares. Place 1/2 tsp. of filling into the center of each square. Bring the corners together, sealing and pressing it into a tiny bundle; or fold it into a triangle. Seal the dough by pressing the edges together. Place the manti on floured baking sheet. Repeat with the rest of the dough and filling.

Fill a large pot with water, add salt and bring to boil over medium heat. Add the manti and stir gently to keep them from sticking to each other. Do not crowd the pot. Reduce the heat and simmer, uncovered, for 15-20 minutes, stirring occasionally, until the manti are tender but firm. Alternately, manti can be steamed in a well-oiled steamer; this takes a little more time, about 30-45 minutes.

**If you are preparing manti filled only with meat, prepare the sauces. Combine the minced tomato, butter and cayenne in a heavy saucepan over medium heat. Bring to a simmer and cook for 5 minutes, then turn off the heat and cover the pot to keep warm.**

Whisk together the yogurt and minced garlic and set aside.

Note: These buns should ideally end up looking either like pumpkins (if manually textured) or spheres (if manually smoothed out evenly).

When the manti are ready, transfer them to a serving dish. For meat-filled manti, pour the yogurt-garlic mixture on top, then drizzle with the tomato sauce and serve hot. For meat and pumpkin-filled manti, garnish with melted butter and sour cream.

***I suspect this is where steamed buns and other flour-based dishes found their way to Chinese cuisine. Wheat-based and flour-based dishes are, of course, prevalent in northern and central parts of China today.***

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Does anyone know if Moussaka first originated from either Greece or Turkey?? I know both countries have some influences over another, and I've seen both restaurants offering their own versions.
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Does anyone know if Moussaka first originated from either Greece or Turkey?? I know both countries have some influences over another, and I've seen both restaurants offering their own versions.
The page on Wikipedia isn't very clear about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moussaka

But I have this theory, I would think that if all of the eastern Mediterranean cultures have that dish, then it was likely spread by and originated from the Ottoman Turks. But if only Greece and Turkey have it, it most likely is Greek in origin.

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Smile Donair, shawarma, and shish taouk!

The Wikipedia.org cookbook offers very few Turkish recipes, and only complicated ones, when it does.

Donairs, shawarmas, shish kabob, and shish tauk- which were later adopted into Arabic, Greek, and even Russian cuisines in some form or other- all evolved from rudimentary Turkic-Mongolian "grilled meat-on-a-spinning-stick".


Preparing chicken shwarmas in a roasting spit, seasoned with the juice of tomatoes.

The cooking/grilling techniques are the same for all of the varieties, and are all served with either rice, potatoes, or as a sandwich and wrapped with flat bread.


Lebanese-style shawarma sandwiches

However, there is variation in regards to how the meat was prepared beforehand:

Shawarmas are made with sliced chicken or beef, including the fat, and typically grilled vertically with vegetable grease over a spinning spit.


Turkish-style shawarma sandwich

shish kebob and shish taouk are simply lean versions of the same thing, but grilled horizontally on sticks.

Donairs (or Döner) are made with marinated ground lamb or ground beef, then grilled vertically on a spit.


Beef Donair sandwich

Here's a standard recipe for the Turkish-style donair kebobs. ("Döner kebap" in Turkish).

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbook%C3%B6ner_kebab
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawarma

Anybody who can actually do this one or anything like this, don't forget to have me over for dinner!

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