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Old 04-27-2008, 06:12 PM
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great post.. it was interesting to read
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I dunno...for me confidence isn't much of an issue. I think its cuz after I moved out into the suburbs there were no Asian people...so most of my friends were caucasian with the few token mexicans and blacks. I never really thought of myself differently from everyone else tho...I was just "normal."

At first it wasn't lack of confidence that prevented me from getting women, but more shyness and fear of rejection, but once I got over that it kinda starts being easier. The main thing is just being comfortable around people and talking for me...once you can do that then you can transition to just talking to women...then asking women out...its kind of a progression.

If you wanna take baby steps in learning how to talk to women...just don't put any added pressure on the situation. Ask harmless questions like "Do you know what time is it?" or "I'm lost do you know where X is?" Eventually when you are more comfortable just talking to women you can start asking em out. A good one is "I'm so hungry! Do you know of a good place to eat around here? (After she replies) Hey do you wanna go eat there with me? I don't really wanna go alone." Kinda cheasy, but it works I guess.

For me race has never really been a crutch, but my height has. Around here more women seem to discriminate against height than race. I don't blame them tho...
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As if other men don't have the same problem...

The article is okay, but it's fairly generic and not really geared towards Asian men. I've been through this confidence building (rebuilding, to be accurate) stage personally so I've read a lot of similar stuff (some better and work for me, some don't). There's nothing in the article that we don't already have on this site (and more + better) in the AoC section. The author seems to have a bizarre hang-up himself, like this:



WTF?
I don't get why its immoral either. Just cuz you got a girls number doesn't mean shes with you...or you are off the market.
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At first it wasn't lack of confidence that prevented me from getting women, but more shyness and fear of rejection...
Uhh, isn't that lack of confidence?
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Uhh, isn't that lack of confidence?
I guess sorta...I have always been pretty confident in certain settings so I don't really know how to describe it. For instance if I'm around friends or people I'm comfortable with...then I had no issues with confidence...but if I went out to a party with mostly people from a neighboring school or if I didn't know too many people...then the shyness kicked in. 75% of the time I wasn't all that shy...it was just certain situations.
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Yep - that's called a lack of confidence.

It doesn't take confidence to yap up the people you know or are close with.
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The only thing I have to say is, get out there and network around. A lack of confidence comes from a lack of experience in dealing with social activities/environments etc.
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I do believe in your point of view, however it is still in the guys frame of mind to be confident.

Practicing social skills helps enormously.

Thanks for the post.
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I agree that asian guys should embrace their physical features. But I know that many asian guys in western countries want to date outside their race. In order to do that successfully asian men must adapt. Asian cultures tend to not encourage men to be bold with women. It's necessary to overcome that socialization. Asian guys need to be more rugged and masculine as well to have success with western women.

Obviously you have a "thing" for asian-ness. More power to you. I'm glad you like asian guys. But asian men in western countries need to go beyond the niche of dating women like yourself. You're part of too small a minority. Asian guys must adapt to be appealing to a much larger pool of western women. That entails becoming more masculine by western standards. That's a good thing since, as an immigrant, I've noticed that asian cultures tend to encourage men to be not so masculine relative to other cultures. Living in a western country is a good corrective. There are elements of western cultures that are weak too so it cuts both ways.

I'd like to see the day when asian men are considered as rugged and masculine as latino and black guys. As for role models I'd like to see an asian equivalent of someone like a Denzel Washington or even a Sidney Poitier. Tough and rugged but intelligent and principled at the same time. Not for my benefit but for teen and young adult asian dudes. Will Hollywood ever let that happen? I dunno.




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This is a bit of a strange article...It actually sounds like it could be written from any man 's perspective, in fact, let me rephrase that, from any american male's perspective, and not specifically asian. But then again, it's pretty revealing that the author should be asian.

Also, as a female who find asian men attractive, I'd like to point out that all the characteristics one sees in asian men are exactly what make them appealing, the smooth skin, the slender body, the beautiful dark thick hair and interesting face and somewhat graceful way they carry themselves while still managing to be totally virile.
The article (probabbly unconsciously) makes it sound like asian males have to overcome some kind of genetic drawback to compete with other races in the sex-appeal arena!

I imagine that the main problem is a lack of attractive asian male role models in the occidental (and american in particular) media. The article only refers to Depp and Pitt ( 2 attractive specimen of white manhood, i'll agree), but they are, ultimately white, so why emulate them if you're asian? I mean, I'm a white girl and at times feel that I may not always be as attractive to asian men as females of their own race but I'd never be able to look like one, so i hope that my own "caucasian appeal "will work. Or not. Self-depreciation is never gonna be attractive.

If asian male role models are lacking in US culture, why not try to find them somewhere else?film stars in asia, such as let's say, Daniel wu or Leon Lai(Chinese) or Jo in-sung or Lee byung Hun (Korean)are very handsome and versatile playing hard-edged cops/gangsters as well as family men or romantic leads. They are many of them to admire!

Oh, and another point, if you have to work twice as hard to get a "hot girl"whose gonna judge you on shallow characteristics, why bother? You can always find another one maybe a bit more open-minded.

Asian men should be proud to be asian. That should be the 1st step to self confidence.

By the way, i am aware that being a non-american white female, I may not be in the best position to give advice but consider I may give a more balanced "outsider's" opinion.

At the end of the day, each of us have to find their own way of feeling good, so good luck!

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