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Move here if you want. Azns rep one third of San Fran. But one glitch; if you don't mind beautiful women constantly throwing themselves at you, shamelessly flirting you up and down on the regular. If you don't mind being treated as a piece of meat then by all means, COME ON DOWN!
Went to San Fran on a holiday impulse for a week, badly planned and ended up having to leave earlier than intended but for the most part loved what I saw there. Gorgeous, embraces it's Asian influence and refreshingly liberal for a change. But yeah, it's expensive and surprisingly kinda dead nightlife wise on many nights of the week. I was looking forward to check out the club scene but left unsatisfied. And walking downtown at night with a tourist beacon backpack on was kinda spooky; no civilians, just panhandlers and pimps and dealers on every corner I turned.
Don't care for the politics either, but as long as people don't try to convert me, we'll be fine.
Don't count on it.
The SF liberal/PC crowd - both native born but esp. the wretched East Coast transplants - are the most self righteously indignant, boisterous, petty, and meddlesome group of fuckwits you are ever likely to have inflict their goofy worldview on you.
These fucking people have an opinion on just about every subject under the sun whether or not they have a clue or inkling of experience in regards to the subject at hand.
The quote below is not some crude or exaggerated caricature of the Bay Area/SF PC mindset. It is an apt description of an all too common observable behavioral pattern.
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The liberal believes that the group has a right to control every aspect of everyone’s life. He may permit many freedoms, but only those of which liberals approve. Abstract or general freedom holds no appeal for him. The limbic instinct of the inveterate liberal is to harry, regulate, and stifle the individual, of whose penchant for independent action he is profoundly distrustful.
Of course he does not think that he is stifling and imposing, but improving and instructing. For the unwilling he has no patience. The liberal is a creature of the homiletic herd, like a gnu wielding tracts, and believes in the “the masses,” in their infinite plasticity and potential for uplift and betterment, guided by him. Particularly he wants to uplift those who do not want to be uplifted, as their independence might be infectious. He sees himself in the capacity of the patient mother of a society of wayward two-year-olds who must be diapered, formed, and taught.
Thus his love of government in all its meddlesome intrusiveness, pedestrian witlessness, and unrestrained drive for dominion. He – or rather more often, she – knows that without coercion, some people will not do as they ought: that they will besot themselves, behave wrongheadedly, teach their children heaven knows what, and march off in all different directions. They must be restrained. And since the restrained usually find ways of evading the constricting tentacles, ever more and more-detailed laws must be enacted to thwart each new escape. Thus the government will eventually come to dictate the altitude, material, color, shape, texture, and compressive strength of toilet seats.
Liberalism is a feminine creed, embodying the kindness, short horizons, modest familiarity with reason, and placidity of the sex. It wants to buy people nice things without reflecting on how to pay for them. It believes in goodness but doesn’t often get much further, being benevolent while falling short of beneficence. As good mothers will, it tries to protect everyone from everything.
This is why the Democratic Party unrelentingly promotes security. Children must wear helmets while riding bicycles, swimming pools must not have deep ends, canoeists must wear life preservers, we must outlaw guns, and smoking, and drinking while driving, and we should all wear sunscreen so as to avoid melanoma. We must worry about safety until there is nothing left in life but its preservation.
With the seldom-recognized totalitarianism of the female, liberals seek to impose happiness, whether desired or not, by therapy and mood-altering drugs, whether desired or not. People must be happy, must be safe, must be forcibly socialized to a life of orderly boring routine whether they want it or not. The herd will provide for all; the price is that all must yield to the herd. Thus the liberal aversion to any form of self-defense, whether conducted with a gun or a baseball bat. Self-defense is distressingly individual.
You know the diff between SF libs and the ones in L.A.?
In SoCal the liberals are more easy going, are willing to agree to disagree and are , on rare ocassion, genuinely likable as people while the SF leftists are under the delusion that they are intellectually and academically superior to all and sundry. And it reflects in their unearned regional arrogance. In truth they are typical of the ivory tower crowd- they are only book smart and only on those heavily proagandized subjects they have squandered a misspent life obssessing over.
As a result, they are half educated fools who have mastered enough rote memorization of irrelevant facts (read: leftist agitprop dogma)to pass for insight to the willfully ignorant.
San Francisco is the greatest city in the world, with the most AA history in America.
Look up any publication for "Best City in USA" and SF is near the top of the list.
Also, the "Liberals" are a small but vocal part of the city. Most of us don't take them too seriously.
BTW: We have the brightest minds in America (SANS Boston) here exemplified by our Unis: Berkeley, Stanford, and UCSF. Over 75% of business startup starts in the bay area. With the future global economy being built around Asia, nanotech, biotech, stem-cell, and banking, the Bay Area is the epicenter for the global economy. Come here, work hard, play hard, and the you will not want to leave.
BTW: Love you Avatar Name: Koxinga. If you are Konxinga Call be Oboi
Koxinga--interesting stuff there. I personally don't care that liberals have a veiwpoint that differs from mine, just stay away from me with that mindset and stop trying to force the liberal views upon me.
I saw this article today and thought about the SF liberal machine:
BERKELEY, Calif. -- Mayor Tom Bates wants to dilute or reverse the Berkeley City Council's controversial decision to force a Marine recruiting center out of the city -- a vote that has triggered threats from irate conservative lawmakers on both the federal and state level to withhold vital funding.
"We went too far when we passed [the resolution]," Bates said. "We said things we probably shouldn't have said."
On Thursday, Republican Assemblyman Guy Houston of San Ramon said he planned to introduce legislation to withhold more than $3 million in state transportation money until Berkeley rescinds its "war on the U.S. Marine Corps."
Houston's action followed a threat from Congressional Republicans to introduce legislation that could eliminate millions of dollars for UC Berkeley, public safety programs, a new ferry service, and the Alice Waters foundation, an organization that provides lunches to public schools.
The controversy erupted last week after the City Council passed an item condemning the Marines' downtown recruiting center on Shattuck Avenue. The item told the U.S. Marines that if its recruiters choose to stay in their rented downtown space "they do so as uninvited and unwelcome guests."
It was quiet Wednesday evening in front of the Marine Corps recruiting station on Shattuck in Berkeley, but the battle between city officials and the federal government is escalating.
An anti-war protest vehicle remains parked in front of the recruiting station, and now some republicans are retaliating by trying to slash $2.3 million in federal funds from several Berkeley programs after the city council voted last week to ask the Marines to leave.
Pictures of the vocal protests that took place in front of the Marine Corps recruiting office from last week's demonstration infuriated some members of Congress.
Republican South Carolina Senator Jim Demint was among those angered. "Patriotic American taxpayers won't sit quietly while Berkeley insults our brave marines and tries to run them out of town, and the city doesn't deserve a single dime of special pet project handouts," said Senator Demint in a statement.
Senator Demint has joined forces with five other Republican senators and an Orange County representative to introduce companion bills called the Semper Fi Act of 2008.
One cut amounting to almost a quarter million dollars would impact the Chez Paniesse Foundation, which helps provide school meals to thousands of Berkeley public school students. Not surprisingly, Berkeley residents are shocked that the proposed legislation would go to such lengths.
"If you want to give a slap on the hand of a community because of their opinion and viewpoint, that in itself is questionable. But to attack our children to do that is absolutely unconscionable," said Berkeley School District spokesman Mark Coplan.
On the streets of Berkeley Wednesday night, many people said Berkeley city leaders went too far in their anti-war efforts.
"I'm against war, but I think if we didn't have the Marines we'd probably be all be speaking German," said Ralph Kratz of Richmond.
"I think Berkeley has a right to their opinion and I think the Marine Corps does too. I don't think federal funding has anything to do with whether there's recruitment or not," said San Leandro resident Ed Shapiro.
Bates said he hoped the city can clarify its position.
"I'm not saying we're anti-Marines or anti armed forces," he said. "We're just trying to set the record straight that we're against this war. We think it's illegal. We think it's immoral. We think it's wrong and we think we've been lied to. We want this war to be over."
The showdown between Berkeley's city council and its critics comes to a head on Tuesday when the city council will vote again whether or not to urge the Marines to leave. Some council members appear to be softening their positions.
A pro-military group called Move America Forward says it will hold an all-day protest in front of City Hall the try to get Berkeley to back down.
I was reading Yahoo's public forum about it today and I'm copying the best answer that they received, which happens to align with my response to this:
"More than just funding, they should lose all access to any federal programs. If they want the right to choose to evict the government, so be it. However, they should lose all protection from the feds including FBI, funding, welfare, education monies, etc. If they want independence, I say give it to them - with ALL that goes with it."
Anyways, I'd still live in SF if I had the money and opportunity, but I think I'd be very uneasy with the local politics. Hopefully I'd have enough money to not have to meddle in it.
Koxinga--interesting stuff there. I personally don't care that liberals have a veiwpoint that differs from mine, just stay away from me with that mindset and stop trying to force the liberal views upon me.
I saw this article today and thought about the SF liberal machine:
Berkeley is a different city than SF, like comparing what goes on in Arlington to Dallas. Berkeley, arguably the epicenter of free speech, naturally has the loudest of the left-leaning, but loud does not equate majority. If you scan the polls and comments from locals in the area papers, you will see the far left does not speak for the majority. The national press loves to jump on any wackiness that will sell papers and get people angry about California -- recently, a plane-full of soldiers were not allowed to disembark temporarily in Oakland, the press jumped on it and blamed the liberals. Never mind this also happened in Texas recently and the people in charge in both cases were merely following national security guidelines. Guess which story made it to Rush Limbaugh?
As much as the wacky stories from this area tends to make the news, SF has been the top destination spot for vacationers for several years running. The people that visit can usually see beyond the polarizing press, what they find here is a wide tapestry of people and ideas, much more diverse than what makes the news.
