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I know I shouldn't give this any light, but I just had to because sometimes things--so perfectly-- capture some of the darkest corners of Western patriarchy. A friend just sent me a link she found with the search terms "Vietnamese women." It is attached to a bigger site called No Marriage, a site for why men should not get married. Let's just say the reasons offered are not because marriage is an inequitable, homophobic and sexist tradition.
It is because American women are aggressive (raceless?) bitches and Vietnamese women are quiet, subservient and, you know, stay in their place.
An American woman has several fundamental problems that will never go away and that will get much worse a few years after she is married:
1. Her inherent anti-male bias and pre-occupation with fairness that was drilled into her at high school, college, and through the media. Her constant confrontations and trying to prove herself and to make a point.
2. Her self-centeredness, her ridiculously high expectations, her sense of entitlement, her high-maintenance, superficial, and stuck up attitude, her snootiness and her sense of superiority. This "princess" syndrome means that she will always think that she is better than you, and that she deserves and she is entitled to whatever she wants from you.
3. Her general mental instability and psychological disorders.
4. Her using sex as a weapon and reward to get things.
Vietnamese women generally don't have any of these problems. Marrying an American woman simply does not make sense. The ONLY reason men stay with American women is because they did not have enough exposure to Vietnamese women. Any man who spent a few months in Asia will not even look at American women again.
I will not state the obvious and give anymore credence to the specific arguments. What is amazing is that this sounds ridiculous to us, but in some circles this is an acceptable narrative (in fact in a lot of circles). A type of racism that just falls between the cracks and outside of dominant racial discourse, aka, the seemingly harmless "desires" of the Asiophile (white boy with the Asian fetish usually found saying things like, "if you want to get laid, Thailand is the place to go!").
I would like to thank this idiot for giving me the opportunity to talk about one of my biggest peeves.
Last edited by mradventure; 02-06-2008 at 09:19 PM.
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so what you're saying is, you can't handle anyone who doesn't put you on a pedestal? I personally prefer a bit more of a challenge, from a challenging woman.
mradventure, you clearly have issues of self esteem when it comes to American women. If this post wasn't so pathetic, it would be laughable.
You make the mistake of thinking that one race of women is completely different from the other, that one is better than the other.
In reality, differences in women are a result of many things - location, ethnicity, culture, religion, social status. Any and all of these things can shape the kind of woman you're describing - regardless of where she lives or her ethnicity.
After rereading your post, I've reached the conclusion that you've just been dumped by a woman you allowed yourself to believe was the woman you were going to marry. In retaliation, and in an effort to make yourself feel better, you've posted this long, convoluted description of your ex.
The original post I read and replied too, did not say that mradventure's post came from a website. So, I'll stand by my "ssumptions and shaming language".
haha...i think you're saying we're too good for you. you seriously have a self esteem and confidence issues. you're simply in denial if you believe that women in asia (whether it's vietnam, china, any part of asia) don't have any of the problems you mentioned. i had many friends' brother got screwed by marrying woman from asia. these women ended up cheating on their husband. of course i'm not applying all women in asia. yes, i do agree you can keep these woman stay in their place. only if you have enough money to feed them and they don't have to work. believe me, they're digging around. this is not an issue against women in asia. i'm just a typical asian woman raised and grew up in america who's independent. i make myself useful and make contributions to my family rather than a useless person who just stays home and expect her man to bring home the money. i believe in share housework and not just a woman's job. we voice out issues because some men are just clueless and wrong most of the time. majority of the time, we're right! what makes you think vietnamese women (women in asia in general) are not high maintenance? if you have such a difficulty finding good asian women in america, you're not in luck. or maybe you should lower your expectations!
This is a messed up article. I believe the true differences are the environments they live in and the cultures that they have. There are a lot of Asian American women who fit into the stereotype that this article is depicting for western women. It is so wrong to equate Confidence to Self-Centeredness, Equality to Anti-male, Being Emotional and Passionate to Mental Instability and Disorder, and finally Sexual Liberation to Sex Weapon. I disagree with the way they describe Vietnamese women. Feminism.com is not a site to read about things. It screws things up. That's all I can say...