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I'm a huge heroes fans and was surprised that the character the mighty Takezo Kensei or whatever his name is is a hakujin (white guy). Its cool that Hiro gets to live out the adventures of his hero but the other guy gets the credit. The other guy gets the girl and the poor Asian man who does all the work is left alone to return to a dead. That kinda sucks.
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I'd let the storyline play out some more before you jump to any conclusions like that. This show is excellent for twists that you don't QUITE expect. Or at least for doing the expected in an unexpected way. I honestly think he becomes his own Ancestor. That he gets the girl and everything... I'm excited to see how it goes. I love this show, LOL

On a side note, Hero was SMOOTH in his lines with the Swordmaker's daughter. I was impressed. Even Geeks got game Well... when they are written for him. Hahahahha

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I'd let the storyline play out some more before you jump to any conclusions like that. This show is excellent for twists that you don't QUITE expect. Or at least for doing the expected in an unexpected way. I honestly think he becomes his own Ancestor. That he gets the girl and everything... I'm excited to see how it goes. I love this show, LOL

On a side note, Hero was SMOOTH in his lines with the Swordmaker's daughter. I was impressed. Even Geeks got game Well... when they are written for him. Hahahahha
he can not be his own ancestor. lol it is hiro. just to let you know and there is no confusion. i was a little confused because i missed the first show again. i guess i will have to watch it on the internet. damn it.
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Of course the white guy did get hit in the chest with like a half dozen arrows from 10 feet away. That couldnt have been fun, even thogh he did heal.

Poor Hiro hasn't ever recovered from that cute witress he was in love with. I'm suire that if she had looked like some of these AL forum girls, he would have been even more depressed...on account of her having her head cut off over and over by Sylar.

How is that guy not dead? There is no redemption for him. He killed his own other for krissakes.

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some trivia - they originally wanted Claire's toe not to grow back immediately, and have her freaked out by it, and she would go search for it, put it next to the stump, and then they'd reconnect. Also, if this is Hayden's actual foot, she should get that weird fungus hole checked out.


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I wasn't surprised at all. If Tom Cruise can be the last samurai, why would it surprise you to see a british man play Swordmaster? They can't have too many asian characters..I mean that would be too progressive.

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Looks like Hiro got the girl in the last episode, and the white guy winds up getting jealous and betraying them.
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Ok, I started watching Heroes again now that the last plot twist lets Hiro get lucky.

But for the love of God, will they PLEASE stop inflicting the sight of a shirtless Peter Petrelli upon us. I am getting really really really sick of that guy.

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Executive producer Tim Kring knows it sucks this season, and is actively working on improving the show when it returns after the writer's strike and winter hiatus is over. Also the previously announced Origins episodes (one was to be directed by Kevin Smith) have been cancelled.

THE PACE IS TOO SLOW

By Jeff Jensen
Jeff Jensen, an EW senior writer, has been despondent since the cancellation of ''Twin Peaks''On the chilly Monday morning that Hollywood's writers went on strike, Heroes creator Tim Kring called from the streets outside the Hollywood studio where his NBC series is shot. ''Yes, I'm picketing my own show,'' says the 50-year-old writer-producer. ''So surreal.''

But Kring wasn't calling to discuss labor woes — he was calling to explain why Heroes, suffering a creative decline and a 15 percent ratings drop from the same period last year, went from Human Torch hot to Iceman cold. The good news? A turnaround appears to be under way. After weeks of sluggish storytelling, the Nov. 5 episode recaptured some of last season's fanciful energy. We've also seen the next two episodes — and we like them, too. The cliff-hangers are back. Narrative purpose has been discovered. Old favorites like Peter (Milo Ventimiglia) and Horn-Rimmed Glasses (Jack Coleman) take center stage. Even more encouraging: Kring himself is keenly aware that Heroes is broken. Here's his candid critique:

THE PACE IS TOO SLOW ''We assumed the audience wanted season 1 — a buildup of intrigue about these characters and the discovery of their powers. We taught [them] to expect a certain kind of storytelling. They wanted adrenaline. We made a mistake.''

THE WORLD-SAVING STAKES SHOULD HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED SOONER The premonition of nuclear apocalypse created a larger context that unified every story line last season. Kring now sees that Volume 2 (the first 11 episodes of season 2) would have been better served if Peter's vision of viral Armageddon had appeared in the season premiere rather than episode 7. ''We took too long to get to the big-picture story,'' he says.

THE ROOKIES DIDN'T GREET THEMSELVES PROPERLY New Heroes Monica (Dana Davis), Maya (Dania Ramirez), and Alejandro (Shalim Ortiz) ''shouldn't have been introduced in separate story lines that felt unattached to the show. The way we introduced Elle (Kristen Bell) — by weaving her in via Peter's story line — is a more logical way to bring new characters into the show.'' (That said, Kring says a few newbies won't make it beyond this second volume, which wraps Dec. 3.)

HIRO WAS IN JAPAN WAY TOO LONG Hiro's (Masi Oka) time-bending adventure in 17th-century Japan — where he mentored samurai hero Takezo Kensei (David Anders) — finally came to an end on Nov. 5. But Kring says it ''should have [lasted] three episodes. We didn't give the audience enough story to justify the time we allotted it.''

YOUNG LOVE STINKS Kring regrets sticking Claire (Hayden Panettiere) with a super-dud boyfriend and forcing Hiro to moon over a cutesy princess. ''I've seen more convincing romances on TV,'' he admits. ''In retrospect, I don't think romance is a natural fit for us.''

Yet while Heroes has finally found some dramatic traction, this second volume is pretty much a wash. The Dec. 3 episode has been retooled to function as a potential season finale — a move inspired by the writers' strike and a desire to give the show ''a clean slate'' when it goes back into production for Volume 3. At that point, Kring wants to craft a rebooted Heroes that can attract new fans and win back those who've tuned out: ''The message is that we've heard the complaints — and we're doing something about it.''