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Exclamation hundred of thousands Brits infected with Norwakvirus

Hundred of thousands of people in UK are infected with novo virus.
Symptoms include nausea, projectile vomiting, diarrhea, fever and muscle pain.

I suggest you guys wash your hands avoid shaking hands with other people. This virus is highly contagious.


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They say these days here in the UK that if youre seriously ill then the very last place you want to be is in hospital. Theyve gone down hill big time. Underpaid staff, and lack of beds, money and so on all contribute to the reason why outbreaks occur. Plus this warm weather doesnt help... I remember when i was younger the winters here in the UK were fantastic and able to kill of any unwanted bugs/viruses and so on.
Nurses dont have the time these days to do everything that is required, and always more increasing pressure put on them to maintain targets set by those higher up.
My own Mother is a nurse, and now doesnt like her job where once upon a time she loved it. She tells me about the wage problem, the hours and how too much is expected of nurses in the hospitals where they are now given more responsibilities that used to be the doctors position. Doctors too are under the strain, and find they too cant possibly cope with the hours, pay and over crowding. Its all a big mess. Its no bloody wonder people go into hospital to get better but end up worse than before. Infact some dont even make it out alive! And that is damn scary.

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Hundred of thousands of people in UK are infected with novo virus.
Symptoms include nausea, projectile vomiting, diarrhea, fever and muscle pain.

I suggest you guys wash your hands avoid shaking hands with other people. This virus is highly contagious.


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They say these days here in the UK that if youre seriously ill then the very last place you want to be is in hospital. Theyve gone down hill big time.
There was a story that a soldier who was treated for gunshot wounds in Iraq survives then comes back over here for more 'treatment' and gets MRSA

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I heard about that one too matey.. just goes to show how bad these hospitals are!
Im dreading what its gonna be like in a few years time.


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Just found this ..
Its taken from the Telegraph..

You are 15 times more likely to catch a serious infection in an NHS ward than in many other European countries. Yet, as Harriet Sergeant witnessed, medical staff are still failing to follow the basic rules of hygiene

'Any patient staying in this hospital longer than a week is in danger of catching a superbug – I wouldn't come here if I were sick' - consultant anaesthetist

At every level, NHS management lacks the authority to get things done and to improve patient care. It is particularly weak at dealing with issues that need fundamental system redesign and at cross-departmental work involving large numbers of clinicians and managers.

There are many examples: the failure to run a credible appointment system, the failure to look after patients' notes satisfactorily, hopeless IT systems and - perhaps most immediately threatening to patients' health - hospital-acquired infection (HAI). Dirty hospitals, high on the list of almost every patient's complaints, are a direct result of a management system in crisis.

Five thousand people die from hospital-acquired infection a year, and it contributes to the death of a further 15,000. It costs the NHS more than £1 billion a year and loses 3.6 million in "bed" days.

The most notorious infection is MRSA. There is only one antibiotic strong enough to treat it - Vancomycin - and even that is losing its power against the most virulent forms.

The symptoms of MRSA infection are boils, wounds that will not heal, fever and acute pain. These lead to blood poisoning and the devastation of internal organs and bones. Most people catch MRSA through the dirty hands of hospital carers; according to the Public Health Laboratory, fewer than half wash their hands in between touching patients.

Professor Hugh Pennington, an infection control expert at Aberdeen University, warns that the MRSA crisis could grow worse still, unless staff start taking hygiene seriously. "I have investigated slaughterhouses that are cleaner than some hospitals," he said. Roger Arthur, a retired GP whose wife died of MRSA, believes that the full extent of MRSA is being covered up because doctors are reluctant to record it as a cause of death. "The true statistics would cause panic," he said.

In the past, hospitals took cleaning seriously. Florence Nightingale reduced the fatality rate of wounded soldiers in the Crimea from 40 per cent to just five per cent merely by imposing basic standards of hygiene and sanitation. Forty years ago, matron checked levels of cleanliness every morning. One consultant remembered that his hospital even used to set aside a ward exclusively for cleaning staff to learn how to clean.

Cleaners were valued members of the team and worked with the medical staff. All cleaning would be done before the nurses changed patients' dressings so that the dust could settle before wounds were exposed to the air.

Things are different now. When Dr Arthur visited his wife in hospital, he was shocked to see sweet papers, old bits of Elastoplast and the tops of disposable syringes behind the bed. "The condition of the ward did not change at all from the first day I went in to visit my wife. It was disgusting and dirty," he reported.

He was told that her operation had been successful. Within hours of returning home, she collapsed. Tests confirmed she had MRSA, and she died from blood poisoning four days later.

A consultant anaesthetist working in a zero-star hospital on the outer edges of London described the state of her theatre to me. Blood, she said, is splashed everywhere, yet patients are still coming in and out for operations. "We don't get time to clean between patients. But they do in private hospitals, and the turnover is just as fast.''

In the past, it was someone's job to wash all the theatre staff's shoes every day. "Here, no one does it. The surgeon's shoes are caked with old blood. I wash my own." In the private hospitals in which she also works, the theatres are closed every six months and cleaned thoroughly. Bacteria swabs are taken before they open again.

"We have never done this in my NHS hospital," she said. She had tried to interest management, but they had been "very obstructive". A year on, she is still waiting to hear what they intend to do.

Meanwhile, infection rates after hip operations remain high. And she claims that any patient staying in her hospital longer than a week is in danger of catching MRSA: "I wouldn't come here if I were sick - and it is my local hospital."


Read more on the subject theres another 2 pages of it here -> The truth about NHS hospitals: hygiene - Telegraph
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Amen to that Dard ! Hospitals are ropey enough places for the well . It just about the last place you would wanna be if your sick !



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Well, stay well Dard and Min and try to stay out of those virus factories.

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