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Would you date former prostitutes/porn actresses who have suffer emotional torment?

Yes, I've read Liella's thread but everyone jumps into conclusion thinking a prostitute being a bad person. I just read a lot of these girls were somewhat drawn into prostitution on their own account. Their lives got ruin by a few bad men, They needed men and they needed company, and definitely desired for more account of sex.

I've wikipedia-ed former glorious people who ended up being prostitutes and porn actresses.

Sufiah Yusof - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(Sufiah Yusuf, 10 year old maths prodigy who turned to vice)

Annabel Chong - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(An asian law scholarship student who became a porn actress)

Asia Carrera - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(won a full academic scholarship to Rutgers University and is a member of Mensa)

Does these people all actually deserve our care or they are basically the poo-bag of our society? Just wondering.
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all that mensa, college, law student, etc stuff is probably before they got addicted to drugs, started deteriorating mentally and needed to support their habit

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well if you bothered to read further about their account, i think you should note that sufiah yusuf and asia carrera ran out from their abusing parents before becaming one

as for annabel chong, she was gang raped by a bunch of black people (according to wiki)
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I don't doubt that they've gone through alot, but I'm saying I'm willing to bet that drugs were the reason why they didn't find/keep a job. Drugs. Addiction. the one thing that will warp your priorities and cause you to need money asap. And, pron/sex is the way to get it outside of violent crime.

I'm familiar with Asia Carrera's story about being in Mensa. But, unless someone tells me she's still a bonafide member, I'm saying I don't think she was the braniac she once may have been. Let me clarify, I'm not saying that they didn't go through sad, traumatic events that could have ultimately led to their choice in getting involved in the industry. I'm just saying Asia Carrera is probably not going to impress you with her cognitive abilities. She's not going to the the "nerd pron star" some ppl make her out to be.
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Their lives got ruin by a few bad men, They needed men and they needed company, and definitely desired for more account of sex.
Well, what are you waiting for, Captain Save-A-{you-know-what}? They're needy and you're also needy. Perfect match.
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I think that a lot of girls who are pushed hard academically the way prodigies are, actually have somewhat of a backlash from that at some point in their life.

True story:

When I was very young, everyone noticed that I wasn't like the other kids. They gave me an IQ test. It turned up some results that changed life as I knew it for the remainder of my time in school.

So ever since then, everyone had greater expectations of me, pushed me so hard at everything... academics and violin mostly. I wasn't allowed to be a normal kid like others. I wasn't allowed to play softball even though I begged for years, because I had to continue with violin as the shuffled me from teacher to teacher as I "out-learned" one after another after another. I read Shakespeare while the other kids read Dr. Seuss, even though I thought Dr. Seuss was pretty damn funny. You get the idea.

I'm not trying to brag here. I don't think it's anything to brag about. I don't wish this on anybody.


My bad phase started in High School when I told my violin teacher to kiss my ass, and pretty much went on strike from school work. I felt like all my life, people had just kind of seen me as a brain that could talk and play the violin. I didn't feel like a whole person. Other girls went on dates, had friends, wore cute clothes... I had none of that, and I wanted it. I wanted to be normal.

Well, then it went to far worse depths than just doing the bare minimum to pass school, and telling my bitchy violin teacher what I'd been dying to tell her for years. I started dating much older guys from out of town, sneaking around, drinking...

Still, there was that influence that expected me to be that brain with a voice, and I wanted so badly to escape it. That was ONE of several deciding factors as to why I joined the Army.

When I got through Basic, and found myself in the Engineer School surrounded by 400 guys who didn't know me from Adam's housecat, it hit me that I could be like other girls. I could make up for lost time. I could be normal!!

I didn't do normal. I did crazy. I went through an insane phase which I'm definitely not particularly proud of. It could easily have gotten as out of hand as what any of those other girls did.



See, my theory on this is that girls who are pushed so hard on the basis of their minds end up wanting so badly to be seen as beautiful, feminine, sexy... just like regular girls, but the way we tend to go about that is all wrong, and way out of whack. Many times, this is fraught with overcompensation, and making up for perceived lost time.

It's sad, really. It's one of the many reasons I hope my kids are of high-average intelligence and nothing more. It's hard to live on either end of the spectrum, and I believe it's even harder for girls.

He's worth it.
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/\ I went to Ohio University with a female student whose Washington, D.C., overachieving Embassy service parents drove her so hard that we found her one night wandering around the campus in her nightgown, pretty much "no one was home" brainwise.
They ended up flying a helicopter in to evac her to mental health services in their area.

That "cracking" is not as unusual in college as you might imagine, with parents who drive their children over the brink.




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I think that a lot of girls who are pushed hard academically the way prodigies are, actually have somewhat of a backlash from that at some point in their life.

True story:

When I was very young, everyone noticed that I wasn't like the other kids. They gave me an IQ test. It turned up some results that changed life as I knew it for the remainder of my time in school.

So ever since then, everyone had greater expectations of me, pushed me so hard at everything... academics and violin mostly. I wasn't allowed to be a normal kid like others. I wasn't allowed to play softball even though I begged for years, because I had to continue with violin as the shuffled me from teacher to teacher as I "out-learned" one after another after another. I read Shakespeare while the other kids read Dr. Seuss, even though I thought Dr. Seuss was pretty damn funny. You get the idea.

I'm not trying to brag here. I don't think it's anything to brag about. I don't wish this on anybody.


My bad phase started in High School when I told my violin teacher to kiss my ass, and pretty much went on strike from school work. I felt like all my life, people had just kind of seen me as a brain that could talk and play the violin. I didn't feel like a whole person. Other girls went on dates, had friends, wore cute clothes... I had none of that, and I wanted it. I wanted to be normal.

Well, then it went to far worse depths than just doing the bare minimum to pass school, and telling my bitchy violin teacher what I'd been dying to tell her for years. I started dating much older guys from out of town, sneaking around, drinking...

Still, there was that influence that expected me to be that brain with a voice, and I wanted so badly to escape it. That was ONE of several deciding factors as to why I joined the Army.

When I got through Basic, and found myself in the Engineer School surrounded by 400 guys who didn't know me from Adam's housecat, it hit me that I could be like other girls. I could make up for lost time. I could be normal!!

I didn't do normal. I did crazy. I went through an insane phase which I'm definitely not particularly proud of. It could easily have gotten as out of hand as what any of those other girls did.



See, my theory on this is that girls who are pushed so hard on the basis of their minds end up wanting so badly to be seen as beautiful, feminine, sexy... just like regular girls, but the way we tend to go about that is all wrong, and way out of whack. Many times, this is fraught with overcompensation, and making up for perceived lost time.

It's sad, really. It's one of the many reasons I hope my kids are of high-average intelligence and nothing more. It's hard to live on either end of the spectrum, and I believe it's even harder for girls.
wow i guess only people with first hand experience actually see this and know of this.

i actually went thru a lot just like you, my parents kept comparing me with other kids. when i had good grades in my younger years and became slightly bad, they kept complaining and comparing. i guess its how us asian parents bring us up and give us a mental impact. no, it really made me feel awkward and i become rebellious. i skipped school, resorted to certain crime i wont mention, ended up pretty much in arcades and internet cafes, which i did not get very good GPAs for my high school.

then it went on, when i was actually in australia, that was the only time i was free from nagging. but i lived my life undisciplined, unable to cope with studies and kept on failing.

now, i'm back in malaysia, i learnt from my lesson. i told my parents how i felt. they thought it would be motivating to be compared, i said i didn't, i felt more negative, more emo and all. right now, after 2 years back in malaysia, i decided that i need to finish this course which i never liked at all and get back on my knees to start working. though i do have deep thoughts about being with a girlfriend, since i never had one nor i managed to get an aussie girl, its really demoralising, if u know what i mean nomad.