I hope that's true, man. Cause almost all, if not all, that I seen fit my description.
Your last statement is double standard. Everyone is free to act what they want, just as everyone is also free to think whatever they want. I think the culture is wimpy and I'm free to think that way. I mean seriously, do these nerds look like someone who can protect you or anybody around them. There is no way they can work as security in bars or clubs.
Lastly, if you simply look at other races' mistake and not your own race's, thats called hypocrisy. Correcting each other's mistakes is a part of a powerful and evolving society. So if there's anything that you deem wrong from your own culture, then you should say it. If every Asian have your kind of attitude, we will seriously become the bottom tier in humanity.
No dude. I simply believe every MAN has the right to act what the hell the way they want. The problem is with stereotypes they take away your individualities and make you all the same. This is exactly what's happening to Asian American men right now. It is like the society thinks we are all the same. I like to consider myself very different than the next Asian guy or any black or white guy out there. Why? Because it is true. If you think there is nothing wrong with a society who constantly breed the attitude that all Asian men are this or not and this somehow won't affect how Asian American kids think, you are seriously mistaken. How do we change the society and make it think we are all individuals? We have to put some positive images out there via the media. Whether we hate the media or not, it is still a powerful propaganda machine.
Your attitude of FOBs is full of stereotypes too. There are all kinds of people in Asia just like it here. I have no doubt there are some truth to your statements, but making a stupid uniform comment like you like makes you no different than any other racist. If you want to be accepted as individuals, you better learn to accept other people as individuals. Besides, I have met some so-called FOBs that are far more interesting than most Americanized Asians.
Lastly, yes I agree many Asians that come over to study can look like nerds, but that's not true of all men in Asia. I came back from Asia not too long ago, there are some very fashionable people out there. Trust me, thugs don't get a chance to come to America to study or their parents can't afford to send them if they want to. Besides, judging Asians from Asia based on American culture standards is pretty stupid all in itself.
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you're starting to show a real disturbing bent. I agree with most of your views, but don't act like some sort of shepherd who needs to preach to lambs who don't know any better. mellow out, and trust me, more people will listen and respect ya. telling us to "FOCUS," saying "every asian man must," come on man, being condescending or too insisting never works. it's why kids rebel against their parents, if you need an analogy. The key to being persuasive is reining in your passion.
That's why these bitter asian guys (Bags, as I call them), vehemently spewing their garbage about AF's who "sell out" are "Self haters" and "race traitors" always evoke a sense of pity in me..
How many times must I repeat this?
I do not hate asian women. In fact I love asian women.
I hate the way we're portrayed in the media. It pisses me off, apparently it pisses a lot other Asian men off too. That is the source of my bitter passion. Since you say you agree with most of my views, then we won't debate about our differences anymore. I am very critical of people who are against positive depictions of Asian American men in the media.
"Talented " seems to think the media does not affect the choices of everyday life outside of consumerism and politics. He's delusional and I don't think it's necessary to debate the point that mass media is very influential in all aspects of our lives.
If I'm treating people like lambs, it's only to people who are ignorant to reality.
I actually posted a few times, congratulating Nordic, Je Suis, Azn04, WCStar on their ideas and views on how to improve our image. So No, i'm not being condescending to everybody, only people who are against improving our image.
to all the lurkers, it'd be nice if you posted on whether you agree or disagree on how to improve our image in the media.
How many times must I repeat this?
I do not hate asian women. In fact I love asian women.
I hate the way we're portrayed in the media. It pisses me off, apparently it pisses a lot other Asian men off too. That is the source of my bitter passion. Since you say you agree with most of my views, then we won't debate about our differences anymore. I am very critical of people who are against positive depictions of Asian American men in the media.
"Talented " seems to think the media does not affect the choices of everyday life outside of consumerism and politics. He's delusional and I don't think it's necessary to debate the point that mass media is very influential in all aspects of our lives.
If I'm treating people like lambs, it's only to people who are ignorant to reality.
I actually posted a few times, congratulating Nordic, Je Suis, Azn04, WCStar on their ideas and views on how to improve our image. So No, i'm not being condescending to everybody, only people who are against improving our image.
to all the lurkers, it'd be nice if you posted on whether you agree or disagree on how to improve our image in the media.
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Kid, you've got a lot to learn about the real world. A whole hell of a lot to learn. You've got a lot of energy, but there are better and far more effective ways to channel that energy.
Us veterans are gonna stay out of this one.
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It was mentioned in this thread, so I just have to say, I LOVE Cashmere Mafia!! I watched it the other night, and damn, that Asian guy on there is HOT!! They did well with the casting on this one. I definitely give them that.
I personally would be happy as can be to see an AM/WF couple depicted on a mainstream TV show like that (can't recall if there has been or not... as far as I'm aware, there are some in films, but not on network TV just yet.) Of course, I'm biased in that regard, but I still think it would be a cool thing to see.
But yeah, Cashmere Mafia freaking rocks!!
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Tell me how is eat, sleep, and shit contribute in anyway to the positive image of Asian males ?
My shit alone is a cure for most cancers, but no one believes me. They'll be sorry though. Nobody believed in IBM too long time ago. Now they wished they owned a bundle of stock when it just started out.
just wanna gimme some self props that I was the one who first broke news of this lucy liu-jack yang thing on cashmere mafia, trying to rouse some interest in this show from AM's.
Anyway, I agree that we should mobilize more. writing studios and such is important, but i think even more important is backing it up by watching the show and going to movies, buying dvd's etc. why don't we see more asian-american movies? because hollywood doesn't think it will help their pocketbooks. If DVD sales for movies such as Shanghai Kiss, Better Luck Tomorrow etc somehow went through the roof, you know a lot of similar movies would be made (Hollywood is big copycat industry) Look at Harold and Kumar. The movie kinda struggled at the box office but became such a cult classic and had great DVD sales and now their is a second one, helping John Cho become a mainstream star.
Actually this Christmas I bought a bunch of copies of Shanghai kiss and give them to people.
Also, in Shanghai Kiss, Ken Leung gets to kiss a AF and a WF (see deleted scenes). This settles the AM/AF vs AM/WF debate. why choose if you can have both???
i already mentioned at the end of my original post to leave out the fact that you're an asian male, which is not the TV producer's target demographic.
pretend you're a white or hispanic female or just stay anonymous.
Why does it always have to be white or hispanic, you do realize there are other ethnic women maybe that's the problem, limiting your horizons and that is why white men are more successful in that regard.
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sometimes, i'm embarassed to be part of such an apathetic group, just mostly sit on their ass and complain. if all y'all are too Fu.cking lazy to do nething about it, then we deserve to have our women sell out at the rates they do.
Well first of all you need to turn off the television and get a reality check. All Asian women are not dating all non-asian men. Also the only way you can do something about it is be like Cathy Hughes who owns a gazillion radio stations and TV ONE, therefore she can put out the programming she likes. All Asians should pool their money together and either buy out ABC,NBC,or CBS that is the only way to do it. Therefore you can put on any programming you like.
the focus is on HOW we can promote the Asian-American male image.
The best way to start promoting the Asian-American male image is to stop asking the same dumb azz question about why Asian American men aren't with white females. if that is all that some Asian American men can come up with is that? then no don't expect the image to change anytime soon. Start demanding more powerful roles like CEO's, doctors, attorneys, etc. Pay attention to how white males are portrayed and it's not all about romance. Also it's not just enough for Lucy Liu to kiss Jack Yang(as he will only be on for another two episodes) something as to run deeper than just romance or the storyline won't last. How about targeting more Asian-Americans to get behind the camera instead of in front of it like casting directors,producers, and most of all STUDIO OWNERS kinda like the SHAW BROTHERS, do you understand what I mean.
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Again, i'm not telling you guys just to blog and post threads. I am asking you guys to directly strike the heart of the beast. Let the writers know what you want. let the producers know you'd like to be cast postively.
Well the best way to strike at the beast is through ownership of your own production company(ala Tim Reid) and your own STUDIO, also the producers are going to cast who they want and if it's an all white cast expect that. Emailing is cool but one has to go beyond that and that is money my friend. Even though Bruce Lee couldn't make it in the front door of HWEIRD, he kicked the door in from the back meaning he went overseas and directed his own movies, he made HWEIRD come to him instead of him coming to them catch my drift.
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Holy shit! you dudes pay too much attention to Hollywood crappy bullshits. Turn off the TV and get back to reality.And stop sending stupid emails to the Jews producers of Hollywood. That will only make them laugh.
Do you know that China, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and Singapore have together more than 3000 billions $ as foreign exchange reserves ? Yes, more than three thousand billion of $ or 3,000,000,000,000 of $.
What the Asians should do is to ask their Asian home countries to shed a few dozens of billions of $ to buy all the Hollywood studios and networks owned by the Jews. After that you can have as much AM/AF, AM/WF, AM/LF or AM/XF representations in the media as you want.
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Holy shit! you dudes pay too much attention to Hollywood crappy bullshits. Turn off the TV and get back to reality.And stop sending stupid emails to the Jews producers of Hollywood. That will only make them laugh.
Do you know that China, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and Singapore have together more than 3000 billions $ as foreign exchange reserves ? Yes, more than three thousand billion of $ or 3,000,000,000,000 of $.
What the Asians should do is to ask their Asian home countries to shed a few dozens of billions of $ to buy all the Hollywood studios and networks owned by the Jews. After that you can have as much AM/AF, AM/WF, AM/LF or AM/XF representations in the media as you want.
Okay you better preach and I don't know if Jews own the studios but I can tell you just like the GAY MAFIA-(Go read the Vanity Fair article) they have a lot of clout and power. How do you combat that, how did the Japanese destroy some of America's best naval fleets, with power in numbers kinda like Kamakazees correct? That is what must be done, you are right CHina and Japan combined owns a majority of America's foreign bonds. It's time Asian Americans stop looking at themselves as minorities. As people of color dominate the world and America in terms of demographics one must start by removing the word minority and "model minority" from their vocabulary.
Okay you better preach and I don't know if Jews own the studios but I can tell you just like the GAY MAFIA-(Go read the Vanity Fair article) they have a lot of clout and power. How do you combat that, how did the Japanese destroy some of America's best naval fleets, with power in numbers kinda like Kamakazees correct? That is what must be done, you are right CHina and Japan combined owns a majority of America's foreign bonds. It's time Asian Americans stop looking at themselves as minorities. As people of color dominate the world and America in terms of demographics one must start by removing the word minority and "model minority" from their vocabulary.
What I wanted to say is why do you have to beg for something when you can buy it. I find the idea of sending emails to the Hollywood producers to beg for a positive representation of AM in their TV shows or films really pathetic.
Why do you have to beg Hollywood for something when the USA owes your home countries thousands of billions of $. Just buy them instead of begging them.
Sometimes, you need to think outside of the box. The fact that I don't live in the USA but in Europe and I don't give a rat's ass about Hollywood crappy bullshit gives me a clearer view of the situation.
What I wanted to say is why do you have to beg for something when you can buy it. I find the idea of sending emails to the Hollywood producers to beg for a positive representation of AM in their TV shows or films really pathetic.
Why do you have to beg Hollywood for something when the USA owes your home countries thousands of billions of $. Just buy them instead of begging them.
Sometimes, you need to think outside of the box. The fact that I don't live in the USA but in Europe and I don't give a rat's ass about Hollywood crappy bullshit gives me a clearer view of the situation.
Okay bruh I am with you. What did the Japanese do in the early 80's buy up half of New York and Houston Texas. Asian-Americans have major clout in California but instead everybody is seperated in their own communities,I believe they just created an Asian American Chamber of Commerce which is a good thing but that's not the only thing. I am like you don't cow down to HWOOD period come from a different angle and instead of knocking on the door kick the SOB down they will understand that LOl
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They did well with the casting on this one. I definitely give them that.
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