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Old 01-30-2008, 12:54 AM
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For me personally, when I look at a lot of the posts on these threads, a lot of it feels really foreign to me. Perhaps that's because I've worked hard for most of my life forging my own unique identity, and building my self esteem on something real, not on a plasticized, corporate owned, divisive, beholden to the government media. Perhaps that's because I elected to think for myself and set my own example. Perhaps it's because I chose to grow a set of balls and a spine....

... Even growing up, I grew up in a vastly different atmosphere than a lot of these kids on the forum. Maybe I was lucky. I had real role models, and tough people who beat the sh!t out of me when I was growing up so that I'd be strong, to realize that equality is not the promise of this country, that you have to work and fight for equality. That you earn respect, not beg for it, and even then, don't expect to receive it all the time. If there's one enduring lesson that I've learned, it's this. It's not my problem that they have a bad attitude. It's not my problem if society has a bad attitude. My problem is my attitude, it's my responsibility to keep that in excellent shape.
I second your entry. I agree with you... you basically said what I was thinking. I'm glad that I had a strong upbringing and found role models. I didn't have to go outside my family ties to find role models amongst the cast of television/movies.

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more evidence of the influence of mass media
I think Yul Kwon needs no introduction among us.

Yul Kwon said,

link to article and youtube video:
The Words of Asian American Men at Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture
That's what Yul Kwon said, but what did Yul Kwon DO?

He didn't write a gazillion posts all harping about one thing to the exclusion of another. He didn't write posts utterly devoid of charisma and with condescending exhortations of "FOCUS, FOCUS PEOPLE". He didn't ask people to pretend not to be Asian.

What he did was one hell of a lot different from talking to people behind an anonymous internet persona. He PUT HIMSELF OUT THERE.

His FACE is on TV and he's representing himself. Not a fantasy character that some writer wrote.

He worked in the offices of a US Senator and made contacts and connections there. He applied for a TV shot in order to portray a real character, HIMSELF. After that he got involved with minority advocacy and started building alliances with other minority organisations. He might even be running for senator now.

This is what Yul Kwon DID. HIS sacrifice of time and energy took YEARS and required a great deal of patience. None of that got in the way of his happiness, well being and development of charm.

Every move he made was well thought out and displayed initiative. On the other hand, writing letters in response to media portrayals look wholly reactionary to me.

I'm not opposed to your efforts, in fact I appreciate your devotion, but if we want REAL change we cannot concentrate wholly on it. I don't want to see a hundred posts pop up in here telling everybody in a high handed manner to "FOCUS FOCUS". We're not fucking sheep you can push around.

Bring in your friends involved in politics. Ask them to write about their causes HERE. Give us links.

If we want to do something, it's time to do more.
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Btw- watching the tv shows won't mean much in terms of statistics unless you're one of those guys with a Nielsen device attaced to your set.
What is a Nielsen device? Sounds danish..

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What is a Nielsen device? Sounds danish..
Nielsen is a global information and media company. So, I suppose that the device is some kind of box they install in your TV to analyze your media behavior. When you swish channels, what shows you like to watch, at what time, for long and so on.
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Nielsen is a global information and media company. So, I suppose that the device is some kind of box they install in your TV to analyze your media behavior. When you swish channels, what shows you like to watch, at what time, for long and so on.
sounds like bigbrother, but thx for the explanation
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You talk about how the other men here aren't doing anything for their race, and yet you're the one being disparaging!
Do you really have such a low opinion of Asian women that you think they need to be brainwashed into finding a certain type of man (REGARDLESS of the type of man) appealing?
Need I remind you that Asian cinema is actually becoming quite popular in Western countries? Most video rental places have a "foreign" section, and more foreign films are making it to the big screen in the U.S. than ever before. These foreign films pair the men with women from their respective countries, as is the norm. They aren't trying to mail order a white man or a white woman to star in their films.
People cast what's natural where they are. Asians are a minority in non-Asian countries, it's a FACT, not a stigma.
If they comprise something like....what is it, less than 18% of the country's population (I'm thinking US - I'm not up on the current figures), how does it make sense demographically to cast them in more than 18% of shows/movies? Less of them EXIST!

Honestly, it bothers me when people try to play the race card like it somehow makes them special.
If you define yourself by your skin, I feel sorry for you.

I am attracted to Asian men on a 10-1 ratio versus any other ethnicity. That's my physical preference. It doesn't mean I hold them in any higher or lower regard for anything else in society, as a whole.
When it comes down to it, I'm attracted to people on an individual basis, and that stems from what they are doing with their life, how they treat others, and how they treat themselves.

If you want to focus on the negative side of life, and bicker about the people who are too stupid or bigoted to get past a person's skin color, you're taking the wrong approach to social interaction, imo. Focus on the friendly, intelligent people.

I can't imagine how awful I would feel if I decided to focus on all the negative things people could possibly say or think about me and any category/stereotype I might fit into.
Do yourself a favor, and look at yourself as you are.
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If you want to focus on the negative side of life, and bicker about the people who are too stupid or bigoted to get past a person's skin color, you're taking the wrong approach to social interaction, imo. Focus on the friendly, intelligent people.

I can't imagine how awful I would feel if I decided to focus on all the negative things people could possibly say or think about me and any category/stereotype I might fit into.
Do yourself a favor, and look at yourself as you are.
Well said. This is a point i've been trying to get at one these forums. You can walk around angry and bitter or you can stand tall. Being insecure and bitter doesn't do anything and it also has the side effect of driving others away.

I give people the benefit of the doubt when I meet them but if they prove to be a bigot usually they'll be out of my life pretty quickly. There's no reason to waste time arguing with a few die hards. Some of the worst ones would rather see you dead than anything else. It's better to live a positive and productive life away from those people who will bring you down.

It's a big world out there.
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