True or False Stereotypes - AznLover.com - Asian/AMXF Social Networking Community
AZNLover Home Forum Personals

Go Back   AznLover.com - Asian/AMXF Social Networking Community » AznLover Community » My Asian Lover

Notices

My Asian Lover General Discussions. Community-related chit chat.

» Site Navigation
» -------------------
» -------------------
» -------------------
» Upcoming Events
No events scheduled in
the next 30 days.
» New Gallery Photos


Latest 5 Blogs
After a year... Last Blog: 12-02-2008 By: CinthebigD






I want Him. Now. Last Blog: 12-02-2008 By: ellimac



Hired on the spot. :D Last Blog: 12-02-2008 By: DiesIrae



» Social Groups
Mabuhay Pilipinas
Member Count - 6
Picture Count - 0

Awesome Arizona
Member Count - 2
Picture Count - 0

Dennis Joseph O'neil - Fans and Lovers
Member Count - 1
Picture Count - 35

Daniel Phillip Henney - My Dream man
Member Count - 3
Picture Count - 11

Takeshi Kaneshiro Lovers
Member Count - 9
Picture Count - 13



View All Groups
» New AZNLover Articles
Yo-Yo Ma Jams with Friends in Joyful New Album
Category: Asian Music Entertainment,  posted on 11-21-2008 by Kristina
Fashion Quandry for Asian American Men
Category: Asian Style and Fashion,  posted on 11-20-2008 by AZNLover
Asian Parents and the
Category: Asian Culture,  posted on 11-16-2008 by AZNLover
» Current Poll
Flu vaccine shot for you?
Shoot me up! - 36.59%
15 Votes
I'll take my chances with the flu. - 56.10%
23 Votes
I don't take anything w/o an ingredient list. - 7.32%
3 Votes
I would... if it didn't involve needles... or leaving the house... without my gerbil. - 0%
0 Votes
Total Votes: 41
You may not vote on this poll.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  post #1 (permalink)  
Old 06-14-2008, 01:45 PM
EXINGTON surfing AZNLover.com
The Divine Lover
 
About
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Best City In The Wor
Gender: Male
AL Buck$: 7,579
Posts: 973
Friends: (21)
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTW Award(s): 0
Rep Power: 0 @ 4372
EXINGTON is a jewel in the roughEXINGTON is a jewel in the roughEXINGTON is a jewel in the roughEXINGTON is a jewel in the roughEXINGTON is a jewel in the roughEXINGTON is a jewel in the roughEXINGTON is a jewel in the roughEXINGTON is a jewel in the roughEXINGTON is a jewel in the roughEXINGTON is a jewel in the roughEXINGTON is a jewel in the rough
True or False Stereotypes

All right so I have an idea for an interesting thread.

It's basically a thread with a true or false formate to them and a poster asks a question of a racist stereotype if true or false and the poster of that race responds with a true or false answer, you can also add an explanation also.

I'll do both to start off but future posts only have to either answer or ask a question.

Chinese men are the "bitch" in the marriage where they do most if not all the cooking and cleaning along with working ?

True or False ?

Korean men are wife beaters ?

True or False ?

False.

At least from first hand experience, I know a lot of Korean males in general, of all ages and also a lot of Korean women of all ages I've never known a Korean male who beat on any of his S.O's, whether they be Fob or Asian American, I've never actually seen a Korean women with a bruised up face that they look like they got from a beating, in fact I've haven't seen more then maybe 1 or 2 Korean women with a bruised up face in my lifetime. I'm not saying that Korean men who beat their wives don't exist, but the notion that it's all right within the Korean consciousness hit's their women is something I've never experienced.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  post #2 (permalink)  
Old 06-14-2008, 02:12 PM
Apollyon's Avatar
Apollyon status is: indeterminate
AZNLover.com Premium/Supporting Member
 
About
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: 43.38 N 70.23 W
Gender: Male
AL Buck$: 10,246
Posts: 1,054
Friends: (24)
Nominated 7 Times in 4 Posts
TOTW Award(s): 0
Rep Power: 2144 @ 211348
Apollyon has a reputation beyond reputeApollyon has a reputation beyond reputeApollyon has a reputation beyond reputeApollyon has a reputation beyond reputeApollyon has a reputation beyond reputeApollyon has a reputation beyond reputeApollyon has a reputation beyond reputeApollyon has a reputation beyond reputeApollyon has a reputation beyond reputeApollyon has a reputation beyond reputeApollyon has a reputation beyond repute
I think its a good idea, but we need to provide some definitions, for instance what a stereotype is. And we also need to establish the notion of true or false. For instance if we are making a blanket statement saying all men do this, then it is always easy to disprove the rule with one counter example in which case all blanket statements can pretty well be proven false when you consider populations of people. I think a more realistic metric would be to consider the statistical distribution of people who behave in a given manner. But that is problematical since I doubt that anybody has hard and fast figures for the kinds of stereotypes we are interested in.

Anyways, the point that I'm trying to get at is that when it comes to stereotyping and that sort of thing, its very complex and complicated and not at all as simplistic as many people make it out to be. You can't even say something so simple as all people of Asian origin have black hair and brown eyes. Also, a stereotype may be completely inaccurate but still popular in the general public.

For those who haven't studied mathematical logic, here is an example of sort of what I'm trying to get at. Here is a propositional statement. This is a very simple example.

Everybody of Asian descent has black hair.

If we take the logical negation of that statement, it would read

There is a person of Asian descent who does not have black hair.

The incorrect negation of the statement would read

Nobody of Asian descent has black hair.

I think that the problem with stereotypes is that as I conjectured earlier, they are very complex mathematical and logical phenomena. That is they are natural phenomena that happen, but with very complex mathematical properties. However the general public does not have a good grasp of logic, which mathematicians have been studying for thousands of years. This is why a democracy sometimes is not a good idea, when a large proportion of the voting public is uneducated about a particular subject. But unfortunately how our laissez faire capitalist society works, everybody with or without the proper knowledge and education, can vote with their dollars.

"Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions. -Albert Einstein"

All that is necessary for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.

He who dares wins.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  post #3 (permalink)  
Old 06-14-2008, 02:45 PM
Lady_Fate's Avatar
Lady_Fate status is: surviving
AZNLover.com Premium/Supporting Member
 
About
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: on a pink clover
Gender: Female
AL Buck$: 76,355
Posts: 8,960
Friends: (153)
Nominated 11 Times in 9 Posts
Nominated TOTW Award(s): 1
Rep Power: 3437 @ 330763
Lady_Fate has a reputation beyond reputeLady_Fate has a reputation beyond reputeLady_Fate has a reputation beyond reputeLady_Fate has a reputation beyond reputeLady_Fate has a reputation beyond reputeLady_Fate has a reputation beyond reputeLady_Fate has a reputation beyond reputeLady_Fate has a reputation beyond reputeLady_Fate has a reputation beyond reputeLady_Fate has a reputation beyond reputeLady_Fate has a reputation beyond repute
I am not sure if this is a good idea, I smell trouble coming in.
Might be only me though.

Lieber stehend sterben als kniend leben!


http://www.flickr.com/photos/lalense/
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  post #4 (permalink)  
Old 06-14-2008, 03:03 PM
Daytrader's Avatar
Daytrader surfing AZNLover.com
Apprentice
 
About
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: USA,ASIA
Gender: Male
AL Buck$: 1,826
Posts: 97
Friends: (3)
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTW Award(s): 0
Rep Power: 0 @ 79925
Daytrader has a brilliant futureDaytrader has a brilliant futureDaytrader has a brilliant futureDaytrader has a brilliant futureDaytrader has a brilliant futureDaytrader has a brilliant futureDaytrader has a brilliant futureDaytrader has a brilliant futureDaytrader has a brilliant futureDaytrader has a brilliant futureDaytrader has a brilliant future
Quote:
Originally Posted by EXINGTON View Post

Chinese men are the "bitch" in the marriage where they do most if not all the cooking and cleaning along with working ?

True or False ?

.
There is some truth in it. My Uncle was a hen picked kind of guy and ended up collapsing to an early death.

I have seen lots of Chinese women who like to nag and act like harpies but that is a generalization of course and could apply to any ethnicity's women.

My father would argue with my mom but end up doing whatever she asked.

So hmm...i'd say yes there is some truth in it

By God I won't be like that though.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  post #5 (permalink)  
Old 06-14-2008, 03:05 PM
CuriousDiabla's Avatar
CuriousDiabla status is: feelin' the chill.
AZNLover.com Premium/Supporting Member
 
About
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Bay Area, CA
Gender: Female
AL Buck$: 39,337
Posts: 5,269
Friends: (127)
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTW Award(s): 0
Rep Power: 2360 @ 226068
CuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond reputeCuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond reputeCuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond reputeCuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond reputeCuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond reputeCuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond reputeCuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond reputeCuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond reputeCuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond reputeCuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond reputeCuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady_Fate View Post
I am not sure if this is a good idea, I smell trouble coming in.
Might be only me though.
I agree. This thread is rooting for trouble.

'All knowledge is worth having.'
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  post #6 (permalink)  
Old 06-14-2008, 03:17 PM
achillies12 surfing AZNLover.com
Lover
 
About
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Iowa, USA
Gender: Male
AL Buck$: 2,736
Posts: 147
Friends: (2)
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTW Award(s): 0
Rep Power: 0 @ 803
achillies12 will become famous soon enoughachillies12 will become famous soon enoughachillies12 will become famous soon enoughachillies12 will become famous soon enoughachillies12 will become famous soon enoughachillies12 will become famous soon enoughachillies12 will become famous soon enough
T/F Stereotypes

How's this?

Belief: We're all good at math.

False: My dumbass failed college Calc and Stat--even when I was more than friendly with the TA!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  post #7 (permalink)  
Old 06-14-2008, 08:41 PM
CuriousDiabla's Avatar
CuriousDiabla status is: feelin' the chill.
AZNLover.com Premium/Supporting Member
 
About
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Bay Area, CA
Gender: Female
AL Buck$: 39,337
Posts: 5,269
Friends: (127)
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTW Award(s): 0
Rep Power: 2360 @ 226068
CuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond reputeCuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond reputeCuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond reputeCuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond reputeCuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond reputeCuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond reputeCuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond reputeCuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond reputeCuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond reputeCuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond reputeCuriousDiabla has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally Posted by achillies12 View Post
How's this?

Belief: We're all good at math.

False: My dumbass failed college Calc and Stat--even when I was more than friendly with the TA!
Some would say to even get to College Calc, you are already reasonably good at math.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  post #8 (permalink)  
Old 06-14-2008, 09:34 PM
leep's Avatar
leep surfing AZNLover.com
AZNLover.com Premium/Supporting Member
 
About
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: maryland, (USA)
Gender: Male
AL Buck$: 5,164
Posts: 255
Friends: (14)
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTW Award(s): 0
Rep Power: 87 @ 7359
leep is just really niceleep is just really niceleep is just really niceleep is just really niceleep is just really niceleep is just really niceleep is just really niceleep is just really niceleep is just really niceleep is just really niceleep is just really nice
Quote:
Originally Posted by achillies12 View Post
How's this?

Belief: We're all good at math.

False: My dumbass failed college Calc and Stat--even when I was more than friendly with the TA!
I second that, I still dont know what 1 + 1 =
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  post #9 (permalink)  
Old 06-14-2008, 09:56 PM
johnhwoo's Avatar
johnhwoo status is: determined to reach my goal!
AZNLover.com Premium/Supporting Member
 
About
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Alameda, CA
Gender: Male
AL Buck$: 6,140
Posts: 523
Friends: (78)
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTW Award(s): 0
Rep Power: 47 @ 3443
johnhwoo is a jewel in the roughjohnhwoo is a jewel in the roughjohnhwoo is a jewel in the roughjohnhwoo is a jewel in the rough