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Bizarre suicide pact in Japan

Guess they should have a 15 day waiting period (along with a background check) for all purchases of detergent products to prevent this sort of tragedy.


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3 dead in Japanese 'detergent suicide' pact
  • Police found three men dead in a car parked outside a spa Monday morning
  • More than 60 people have committed suicide across Japan in the last month
  • Police say string of 'detergent suicides' encouraged by Internet sites
  • Japan has one of the highest suicide rates in the world
TOKYO, Japan (CNN) -- Police found three men dead in a car parked outside a spa Monday morning -- the latest in a string of suicides involving detergent, officials said.

According to local media reports, more than 60 people have committed suicide across Japan in the last month by mixing detergent and other chemicals, and inhaling the hydrogen sulfide gas that results.

A passerby discovered the bodies of the three men in Tamioka, north of Tokyo, police said.

In western Japan, police found a 21-year-old man with a plastic bag over his head Monday. A police officer in Suma, where the body was found, said authorities found detergent containers by the foot of the man. They suspect the man may have inhaled the toxic gas after mixing them in the bag.

Earlier this month, police in Japan had asked Internet service providers to take down the recipe for the detergent mix. Even before the spate of recent suicides, Japan had one of the highest rates of suicide in the world.

In early May, police evacuated about 350 people from their homes on the island of Hokkaido after a neighbor mixed detergent and chemicals to kill himself.

The two most recent cases did not require the evacuation of the neighborhoods where they occurred. In some cases, officials had to order residents to leave because the resulting gas from the detergent mix can sicken people.

CNN's Yoko Wakatsuki contributed to this report
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That is just too creepy. If that gass leaks out, it causes the whole neighbourhood to fall sick (nausea, sore throat, skin irritations and other, up to admittance to the hospital). Two people, who killed themselves recently had put up "Stay away" signs, which is oh-so-considerate. But well, they don't have to care, what happens later or who they take down with them. I wonder, why it became so trendy? Is it a super fast, super effective, super cheap or super fun way to kill oneself? Or is there some kind of secret online conspiracy going on to state a point, which yet has to revealed (like "detergent harms your children, so don't use it in your household")?

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In Japan many want to die because of the high unemployment rate and the lack of future for themselves.

And believe me, I understand ...

Maybe the detergent just works fast and with little mess, I would want to look halfway pretty when being dead too.

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Japan is well known for committing suicide in the name of preserving familiy honor. Often you hear businessmen kill themselves because of failed business and too ashame to face their families. Life is too precious and many people don't regard as that is just beyond my comprehension.
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In Japan many want to die because of the high unemployment rate and the lack of future for themselves.

And believe me, I understand ...

Maybe the detergent just works fast and with little mess, I would want to look halfway pretty when being dead too.
Well, I call that a big mess, if the whole neighbourhood needs to be evacuated. Besides you probably look, like you died from really bad heyfever, your skin is messed up and probably there are nosebleeds too. Remember, it is a gas that kills ya. Not pretty. There have been prettier methods around them - not that commiting suicide methods would be worth advertising in general, though.

I know, why the suicide rates in Japan are high. And they've always been. Just don't understand, why the new method seems to be so favourable.
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Well, I call that a big mess, if the whole neighbourhood needs to be evacuated. Besides you probably look, like you died from really bad heyfever, your skin is messed up and probably there are nosebleeds too. Remember, it is a gas that kills ya. Not pretty. There have been prettier methods around them - not that commiting suicide methods would be worth advertising in general, though.

I know, why the suicide rates in Japan are high. And they've always been. Just don't understand, why the new method seems to be so favourable.
It is only a guess but a type of gas that attacks your nervous system, shutting down your brain before attacking your other major organs then I think it is preferable way to die. If that's the case then you'll probably don't feel a thing.
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^ That also would be my first guess. Too bad for the neighbours though, because they definitly feel something...

Having to go to the hospital, because one fool had to kill himself... If you want to die, but are afraid of the pain, that's just ridiculous. Because if you choose death over the pain, life is or has been inflicting on you, then what exactly would you be afraid of?
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Well, I call that a big mess, if the whole neighbourhood needs to be evacuated. Besides you probably look, like you died from really bad heyfever, your skin is messed up and probably there are nosebleeds too. Remember, it is a gas that kills ya. Not pretty. There have been prettier methods around them - not that commiting suicide methods would be worth advertising in general, though.

I know, why the suicide rates in Japan are high. And they've always been. Just don't understand, why the new method seems to be so favourable.
My "pretty" remark was just a sarcastic joke, sorry for that one.

I was thinking maybe it works fast.
But true, the affected neighborhood makes it especially ugly.
I oftenly catch myself pondering why some people who want to take themselves out can't just do it to themselves but have to take others with them or affect them badly.
Think of the school massacres or something like this or people who throw themselves in front of someone elses car as another example.

People like this oftely want to "punish" someone else or society as a whole.
They want to force others to think, but certainly this way is totally misguided.
Maybe those gas suiciders want to teach the society a lesson too?
Possible.

I want to make clear that I don't approve to those doings, am saying this just in case my posts here appear misunderstandably to someone.

Btw, in a previous work field I was once researching about german sites who invite for suicide (or however one can call that now) because there were rumors in the media about teenagers and suicide dates.
I was shocked to find out that it only took me 20 minutes to find such message boards and read the posts of some 16 year old girl who asked for someone to do it with her.
This isn't a legal site in germany but if one googled a bit and followed some links it was all there.

I was shocked and saddened by that, even more by the concerted efforts in which some japanese people take themselves out.
Yes, it's said that the japanese have a traditionally different view on suicide, oppositional to the west where it is labeled as shameful the ancient traditions of japan accept it as a honorful way out of a huge mess.

OK, if someone who knows better than me about japanese traditions thinks I got it wrong then please educate me, that's in brief what I have heard, wouldn't exactly know though.
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