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HOUSTON (Reuters) – A Texas school district will let teachers bring guns to class this fall, the district's superintendent said on Friday, in what experts said appeared to be a first in the United States.
The board of the small rural Harrold Independent School District unanimously approved the plan and parents have not objected, said the district's superintendent, David Thweatt.
School experts backed Thweatt's claim that Harrold, a system of about 110 students 150 miles northwest of Fort Worth, may be the first to let teachers bring guns to the classroom.
Thweatt said it is a matter of safety.
"We have a lock-down situation, we have cameras, but the question we had to answer is, 'What if somebody gets in? What are we going to do?" he said. "It's just common sense."
Teachers who wish to bring guns will have to be certified to carry a concealed handgun in Texas and get crisis training and permission from school officials, he said.
Recent school shootings in the United States have prompted some calls for school officials to allow students and teachers to carry legally concealed weapons into classrooms.
The U.S. Congress once barred guns at schools nationwide, but the U.S. Supreme Court struck the law down, although state and local communities could adopt their own laws. Texas bars guns at schools without the school's permission.
As weird as it may sound coming from a liberally-inclined pacifist like myself, I think this actually isn't such a terrible idea. I live about an hour and a half south from where the Columbine shooting happened, and a lot of the schools around here lived in a lot of fear for several weeks after that shooting. There were tons of copycat threats, and if an intruder had indeed been able to come into a school and start shooting, they'd have had a bunch of sitting duck targets.
My dad has been a public school teacher for 26 years, and he has seen the rate of violence in the schools skyrocket. This past semester, a girl in his current school got into a fight and pulled a switchblade knife on another student, and she didn't even get expelled for it! The same girl accused him of "touching" her (he's a music teacher and pressed her fingers down on the correct piano keys to show her how to play something), and they fired him without even asking what really happened.
If kids are getting away with pulling switchblades on other students, what's to stop them from bringing a gun to school the next day? I saw no less than three guns brought by students during my high school years; luckily, none of them was used on anyone thanks to myself and other students who reported them. The situation could have easily been much, much different...
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If kids are getting away with pulling switchblades on other students, what's to stop them from bringing a gun to school the next day? I saw no less than three guns brought by students during my high school years; luckily, none of them was used on anyone thanks to myself and other students who reported them. The situation could have easily been much, much different...
Some former gang members I know were regalling me with tales of how as kids they used to do drives bys on rival gangs attheir high schools while riding bicycles.
They also use to find dead bodies under the bleachers that had been dumped there.
No suprise. My cousin went to a high school where someone was killed with a hatchet.
If I had kids I'd homeschool them and network with other parents who do likewise.
Armed teachers may undoubtedly save some lives in the event of an active shooter scenario but maybe if the goddamned educrats stopped doping up young boys with Ritalin and other drugs for the unforgivable crime of acting like young boys in an attempt to make them more manageable we'd have less emotionally fucked up zombies who go ape shit.
I don't blame them. People don't feel safe anymore. Kids can't go outside in Chicago because they think they will get shot. It really is a sad state these days
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Armed teachers may undoubtedly save some lives in the event of an active shooter scenario but maybe if the goddamned educrats stopped doping up young boys with Ritalin and other drugs for the unforgivable crime of acting like young boys in an attempt to make them more manageable we'd have less emotionally fucked up zombies who go ape shit.
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And maybe some other kids would stay alerted enough to try to defend themselves.
Having said that, I know that the guns can as well become necessary for the SELF defence of teachers nowadays.
And believe me, this can as well turn out to be a double edged sword in the hands of the wrong people.
I would have no better suggestion though, the increase of violence in our societies these days must be met somehow.
I think the original fault lies at the general education systems we have, but improving those would cost money which noone is willing to spend these days. Unfortunately.
I can understand why people in texas do this, but I am also worried about the general development in public education facilities.
These days they don't meet the needs of young human beings anymore.
Too many kids, too few teachers and oftenly an interesting social mix which should be met with way more specifically trained teachers and more diverse teaching methods ... oh yeah, that's what I am dreaming of.
Making smaller classes would already cut MANY of the nowadays reoccurring problems in german, and lemme guess, also in american schools.
But that's not worth the money our governments seem to think, oh well, then guns.
Well I'm not sure that giving guns to teachers will really help in case of a new shoutout. I mean these are teachers, not police officers or special forces trained to identify their targets before shooting, right ?
And in the case where nobody else but the killer is shooting, at least you know who the bad guy is, because he'll be the only one holding guns. When you've got more than one guy armed, how do you make the difference between the good and the bad guys ? How will the teachers know who to shoot ? In some cases, the shooter may even be the teacher himself ( ie Charles whitman case).
Putting guns in the hands of civilians to defend themselves may add more trouble and confusion to an already bad situation.
Teachers who wish to bring guns will have to be certified to carry a concealed handgun in Texas and get crisis training and permission from school officials, he said.
These teachers should be well trained in how to use a firearm if they are allowed to bring it into the school. It won't do them any good if they don't know how to use it in defense of themselves and/or the students. And I'm not talking about a three-hour training session on a Saturday either. They should have extensive training.
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Well I'm not sure that giving guns to teachers will really help in case of a new shoutout. I mean these are teachers, not police officers or special forces trained to identify their targets before shooting, right ?
Many things very wrong with that observation.
First of all, most cops are not nearly as well trained as you might think. Nor are most Special Forces groups trained in Hostage Rescue.
Plus , of the dozens of mass shootings which have happened throughout the decade,none of them has ever been stopped by First Responders fast enough to save the victims who might otherwise be alive if they were armed and had a fighting chance since response time of the cops take so long that it fails to save those who are at the mercy of the killer.
Bottom line. You simply cannot delegate self protection to someone else. Seconds cound when help is "only" minutes away.
We have really only two choices. Arm the teachers and students or have a tac unit stationed at every school.
