Asian Men Can Dress! - Page 3 - AznLover.com

risky · 12-18-2007, 06:56 PM

Roguespear, that KINOWEAR blog is a treasure trove of useful information! good link!

i think you're absolutely right about Asians IN Asia being more fashionable than Asians in the West. this is probably largely due to AM's trying desperately to assimulate into the Anglo culture by "blending in" to the fvcking CONCRETE!

i walk around Little Tokyo and i see J-guys walking around like they just stepped out of a paintball fight with God, but dayum they're stylish. they have the courage to look different.

RogueSpear · 12-18-2007, 06:59 PM

He possibly meant that at this point in time, he is uncomfortable and unfamiliar with the idea of flaunting or promoting himself.

But the nature of attraction DOES require a man to flaunt and promote himself - with the caveat that it must be done well.

How else would you differentiate yourself as an individual, compared to thousands of other men out there that a single woman interacts with on a yearly basis? Style is not the only way to do this, but unfortunately, it is one of the most effective and yet underlooked method available.

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i know this guy who is an engineer type, and i had a conversation with him regarding fashion. i said, hey dude, why don't you dress differently, you know? like you work out, why dont' you wear clothes that accentuates your chest or shoulders?

you know what he said? "man, i don't wanna look like one of those dicks at the clubs with thier shirts half-opened"

my response: "well those dicks at the clubs leave with the hottest girls at the clubs"

"it's just not me"

what's HIM? i mean really, we're talking about getting women here, not changing the very nature of who we are.

RogueSpear · 12-18-2007, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by risky

Roguespear, that KINOWEAR blog is a treasure trove of useful information! good link!

Indeed! You can tell from the way the blog is put together that it is a labor of love!

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i think you're absolutely right about Asians IN Asia being more fashionable than Asians in the West. this is probably largely due to AM's trying desperately to assimulate into the Anglo culture by "blending in" to the fvcking CONCRETE!

LOL!!

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i walk around Little Tokyo and i see J-guys walking around like they just stepped out of a paintball fight with God, but dayum they're stylish. they have the courage to look different.

In mitigation for Asian Americans though (

), do notice how the Japanese women there are just as outlandish and stylish as the men. Cultural context is a key determinant.

congjoo · 12-18-2007, 07:14 PM

firsky im really shocked about this topic.... is it possible that its a west coast thing? I mean everytime girls find out i like asian guys, whether they agree or they dont they ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS mention that they think asian guys dress really well. white girls and arab girls alike mind you point that out to me. fashionable asian guys are always more on the edge then others... sure theres the gap guys, but in montreal at least the trendy asian guys are the ones that pick up the slack reputation wise for asian men

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Originally Posted by risky

i've heard this said a few times by women about Asian guys. they complain that a lot of Asian guys look like they raid The Gap every weekend with the standard khakis and polo shirt, maybe a t-shirt, but generally lack any sense of fashion style. and to a large degree i think they're right. many of the Asian guys i know shop to put clothes on their back so they can disappear in the crowd, which isn't surprising since Asian folks generally don't like attention.

but this doesn't take away from the fact that chicks like a man who dresses well. as that old adage goes, "the clothes make the man", and i think there's some truth in this statement.

so what do you fellas think looks good? let's discuss this in detail and share some of our tastes in clothing. visual examples would be great!

me, i think this dude below is wearing a cool outfit, sans the messenger bag. ugh.

RogueSpear · 12-18-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Smashing Walnuts

OK, too many asian guys strive for the Abercrombie/J-Crew look, only to come off looking like tech dorks (hey, I'm a bit of a tech dork, but the key is to not look like one). The reason why the Abercrombie/J-Crew look works for white guys is because women will see a good looking white guy and think he is a player. But if he is dressed like a goodie-two shoes, it counteracts that player vibe a bit (replacing it with a "he's a good country boy" vibe) and it melts their wee hearts. When women see an asian fellow, they'll think he is a goodie-two shoes. If he goes for the pastel polos and khaki pants, it only amplifies that. So, unless you want to stay in the friend zone forever, you need to stop shopping at The Gap.

That was very succinct and accurate. As far as I know, Asian men in the USA can TOTALLY get away with amping it up. In fact, they'd rob the bank AND get away with it!

On the other hand, you won't get the same fortune doing this in Teheran.

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Originally Posted by whizperguy

yeah totally agree with you.... but then i think since we are on generalisations, asian dress code is just different from the European/white girl taste... like the same thing that will work for the white guys it just doesn't work for asian because the features of asian guy is just different.... and that's why i think a lof of ppl find mixed blood more attractive...

There is a cultural context of course, but the true nature of heterosexual masculine appeal has its roots in primal psychology. Theoretically, in the West, you could turn the "foreigner" perception into the "exotically intoxicating".

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but not necessary more sex appeal for asian guy but rather find your own style and be more comfortable with your style... the trend in asia's advertising is to be more "westernised" but i think it's more about looking slightly more tougher physically and not so civilised and reserved is the main key for asian but then most asian guys just don't have enough guts to be out there... that's what i find in my own corner of reality... so yeah maybe biased but this is what i think

anyone care to enlighten me?

Asia's advertising is dominated by white expatriates, Asian muppets, and perceptions of value primarily driven by the dollar. Even so, indigenuous Asian fads and fashion is growing in a big way because of the demand. A muppet country like Singapore or Hong Kong (sorry, had to take my shots, hahaha

) may indeed mindlessly brown nose the syphilitic anus of the West (hahaha sorry, I had to take the shot again

), but in other countries a large population base and local culture gives local designers a market they can tap.

(Don't shoot me back

)

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Originally Posted by Jackie

I think the attitude towards fashion among some men somewhat lacks respect, since it's such a "superficial" matter. Perhaps some of them believe in "it's the inside that counts", I used to be one of them. Here is the twist though, vision, is one of our major senses. We look with our eyes to see where we are going, we look at people when we converse, we look at beautiful people. So why shouldn't one take care how he is presented to the world and the people around him? "Dress like everyday is important" is the one sentence I quote out of a pretty famous book. Dressing like the day is important allows you to feel like you are going somewhere important, with it, a sense of purpose. You actually FEEL good about yourself, your confidence goes up etc.

EXCELLENT POINT.

Off on a tangent, the problem with uniforms and dress codes is that its purpose is to STIFLE individuality.

If you ever find yourself in a region with lots of dress codes and uniforms for almost everything, then you know what sort of social culture you are in.

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Sorry perhaps I got a little off topic. As for what outfit looks good. It really depends on your personality, and your body type. Face it, not everyone is a 180+ runway model. Dress to fit your body.

suit jackets with defined cuts looks great on anyone. single breasted, not too big.

Jeans, loads of different styles, dark to light washes, details! go for the ones with nice details as they make your jeans stand out from the rest( oh and trust me, the girls can and will notice them)

pants, depends on what kinda shirt you are wearing..

shirts, again, lots and lots of styles, but go for the ones with a cut.

t-shirt, whatever that says about your personality.

Shoes. IMO, every guy should have at least 3 pairs of nice dress shoes. Rotate them, wearing the same pair of shoes is 1. going to ruin the shoes faster. 2. Girls will notice that you dress nice.. but always wear the same pair of shoes. and.. sneakers, personal taste I suppose.

I would add that a guy would need to train his eye too. Will elaborate more on this later.

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That outfit you put up is really cool, Risky!! I love it!!

Now, Thak pretty much dresses really simple when he's not in uniform. (Come to think of it, being in uniform is dressing simple, too, so I guess he always dresses simple! LOL) I've never much minded. For me, as long as he's not wearing tight-rolled, acid washed jeans from the 80's, or a tie-dyed wife beater, or something else completely heinous, then it's all good. I've never minded Thak's "jeans and t-shirts" wardrobe. If I knew anything at all about men's clothes, I might try to spice it up a little bit, but considering that I don't, well, things will stay how they are at least for the moment. While I like things like what Risky posted in general, I just don't know if I could ever see Thak in something like that. I've known him the way he is for too long to be able to picture him otherwise. Now if HE wanted to change things up a bit, well, more power to him!

That's so cool! Thak embodies universal and timeless masculinity in his person.

And yet, it is STILL possible to amp it up. I can guarantee that if you take a guy like this, give him a makeover that complements his "game" and appeal and send him out there, he'll turn lots female heads and send twinges to pussy for sure.

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Originally Posted by xtalman

I definitely don't know how to dress. I have no idea what I look good in, or what looks good on me. I guess I really don't want to spend the time and money figuring it out, either.

You will have to spend time, possibly lots of it, but not necessarily more money.

This is normal for learning anything that is new to you.

The good news is that today, there is no longer any reason to be afraid of change or a new start. A guy needs no longer learn from scratch and by himself at the beginning.

TBCWLCH · 12-18-2007, 07:31 PM

The rule #1 that I've always followed is DRESS TO KILL. The money I spend on clothes takes up the highest percentage of my total budget. Due to the fact I have a lot of shoes, clothes, and even underwears, my gf calls me metrosexual . She said that was a word for the guys who have a lot of clothes, but are not gay. I don't understand why American people created such a word to describe guys caring aobut their appearance. Isn't it normal to take care of self's look? In the US, if a guy knows how to dress and have a lot of clothes and accessories, people suspect them to be gay. In Asia, it is normal for a guy to care about his look. It is also normal for a guy to use skin care products, like mask... and the women are not bothered with it.

Back to the topic, I think not only asian guy can't dress. In general guys don't know how to dress, especially in the US.

Stormofsteel · 12-18-2007, 07:31 PM

Clothing and fashion are overrated; I interchange my daily wardrobes between a loincloth and an adult diaper. It depends if the woman wants me to be Tarzan or a baby. I got all my bases covered.

RogueSpear · 12-18-2007, 07:41 PM

The weakness of the metrosexual is that he has begin to adopt the psychological attitudes and quirks of female pattern spending.

And yet, female pattern spending is something that has been easily exploited by manufacturers and advertisers to turn women into nothing more than consumers.

Imagine the worth of a man being reduced to his "lifetime value of consumption".

Down with the metrosexual!

A new era for men has begun!

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Originally Posted by TBCWLCH

The rule #1 that I've always followed is DRESS TO KILL. The money I spend on clothes takes up the highest percentage of my total budget. Due to the fact I have a lot of shoes, clothes, and even underwears, my gf calls me metrosexual . She said that was a word for the guys who have a lot of clothes, but are not gay. I don't understand why American people created such a word to describe guys caring aobut their appearance. Isn't it normal to take care of self's look? In the US, if a guy knows how to dress and have a lot of clothes and accessories, people suspect them to be gay. In Asia, it is normal for a guy to care about his look. It is also normal for a guy to use skin care products, like mask... and the women are not bothered with it.

Back to the topic, I think not only asian guy can't dress. In general guys don't know how to dress, especially in the US.

RogueSpear · 12-18-2007, 07:48 PM

There is nothing wrong with your preferences, but they do reflect who you are, and what sort of man you want.

It is thus just as important for a man to figure out what sort of woman he would like to attract (and seduce

).

The result would be a happy medium!

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Originally Posted by msohaiku

I agree with Chewie. If a man is not comfortable in what he wears, it shows. While one or two pieces a season of something trendy is okay, a whole closet full is not. I prefer to see traditional style clothing on men and it's what I prefer to wear also. Then you don't look so silly in old pics of yourself. For me, a man who dresses to the nines all the time is a turn-off. It sends out an arrogant message to me. I prefer to see guys in casual clothes. Now don't get me wrong, a good-looking man in a nice suit is very nice to look at, but not something I would want to see him in all the time. Jeans, khakis, sweater, pullover, button-down shirt, polo shirt, comfortable shoes, etc. are all a plus in my book.

Beerbuttchicken · 12-18-2007, 07:55 PM

Here's how my style transitioned.

At first when I came to America, my mom took me to Wal Mart to buy clothes. We was poor.

Then I shopped at Target.

Then the mall. This is when I thought A&E and Abercrombie were the shit.

Just recently I started buying Diesel, Affliction, etc for 2-3X more money per shirt but they definitely stand out and fit better.

The thing is, I used to buy a lot of shirts that were pretty cool but not all that great because they were on sale or cheap. But really, all I need is some really nice clothes that are easily interchangable.

I still wear polos from Express mainly because they look clean yet shexy because of the colours and fitting.